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Madame Alfred...no flowers in first year ?

image ive planted one either side of this arch, they've both reached the top and look healthy. But no flowers in their first year, is this normal ? I actually wanted more growth than flower to get them established but am just concerned they won't flower next year, south facing and a good amount of sun....any ideas ? Thanks

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  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 22,318

    MAYBE THEY ARE HAVING TO COMPETE FOR WATER WITH THE OTHR PLANTS.

    AND ROSES DON'T MUCH CARE FOR BEING "LOOKED DOWN ON" BY TREES.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,564

    tarmac? Have I missed something?

    Devon.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,564

    If "Madam Alfred" is M. Alfred Carriere, I'd say it's way too vigorous for an arch.

    RHS says it can reach " 4-8m"

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/99741/Rosa-Madame-Alfred-Carri-232;re-(N)/Details 

    Devon.
  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 22,318

    tarmac? Have I missed something

    imageI DIDN'T LIKE TO SAY....

    YES, SHE'S A BIG GIRL BUT I ASSUMED THAT DAVY BOY HAD CHECKED UP ON THAT BEFOREHAND.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 86,107

    Mme A. Carriere blooms on wood formed in the previous season so I wouldn't have expected it to bloom this year. You should get blooms next year on this years growth. 

    Train new shoots around the supports while they are still young and pliable to stimulate the production of side shoots which will produce the flowers and ensure that the arch has blooms all the way up and not just at the top. 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Thank you all for taking the time to reply. Not sure where Tarmac got mixed in but hey ! I dont mind it being vigorous in growth as I like my plot to be on the wilder informal side and already having a Kiftsgate Rose scrambling through some trees it makes Madame AC seem sluggish ! I think Dovefromabove has nailed it and I'm a bit more hopeful of some blooms next year. Thanks again.

  • Patience rewarded ! 
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 11,662
    Looks good and the perfume is lovely too.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
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