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Madame Alfred...no flowers in first year ?

image ive planted one either side of this arch, they've both reached the top and look healthy. But no flowers in their first year, is this normal ? I actually wanted more growth than flower to get them established but am just concerned they won't flower next year, south facing and a good amount of sun....any ideas ? Thanks

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  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 20,146

    MAYBE THEY ARE HAVING TO COMPETE FOR WATER WITH THE OTHR PLANTS.

    AND ROSES DON'T MUCH CARE FOR BEING "LOOKED DOWN ON" BY TREES.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 31,641

    tarmac? Have I missed something?

    Devon.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 31,641

    If "Madam Alfred" is M. Alfred Carriere, I'd say it's way too vigorous for an arch.

    RHS says it can reach " 4-8m"

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/99741/Rosa-Madame-Alfred-Carri-232;re-(N)/Details 

    Devon.
  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 20,146

    tarmac? Have I missed something

    imageI DIDN'T LIKE TO SAY....

    YES, SHE'S A BIG GIRL BUT I ASSUMED THAT DAVY BOY HAD CHECKED UP ON THAT BEFOREHAND.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 77,454

    Mme A. Carriere blooms on wood formed in the previous season so I wouldn't have expected it to bloom this year. You should get blooms next year on this years growth. 

    Train new shoots around the supports while they are still young and pliable to stimulate the production of side shoots which will produce the flowers and ensure that the arch has blooms all the way up and not just at the top. 

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • Thank you all for taking the time to reply. Not sure where Tarmac got mixed in but hey ! I dont mind it being vigorous in growth as I like my plot to be on the wilder informal side and already having a Kiftsgate Rose scrambling through some trees it makes Madame AC seem sluggish ! I think Dovefromabove has nailed it and I'm a bit more hopeful of some blooms next year. Thanks again.

  • Patience rewarded ! 
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 SomersetPosts: 9,266
    Looks good and the perfume is lovely too.
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