Pronunciation

I am eternally irritated by gardeners not realising that Kniphofia is named after Herr Kniphof. Being German, his name is pronounced K nip hof. ( hof means a courtyard or formal area, and the K is pronounced) The plant is not named after a Greek, when ph would be pronounced f .  Hence K nip hofia.  It would still be bearable without the pronounced K, but there are NOT two f sounds. Please broadcast this to the linguistically challenged  English speakers!

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 21,021

    Did you mean that post to as rude as it appears?

    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 54,607

    Monty Don went to great efforts to explain this on a programme last year ... however I don't expect it to have any influence on the way it's pronounced by people and I don't expect that he does either.

    I am constantly irritated by the mispronunciation of lots of things, and the Victorian Hellenization of the pronunciation of many East Anglian Anglo Saxon place names is a constant bugbear.  However I know that I am a linguistic pedant and I have accepted that most people are not.

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 21,021

    We have a local village called Woolfardisworthy" , pronounces Woolziry.

    I'd have to say my GW bugbear is " Rising to a crescendo" 

    A crescendo IS the rising. " Rising to a climax " is , what I'm sure, they mean.

    Devon.
  • nutcutletnutcutlet PeterboroughPosts: 25,999
    Hostafan1 says:

    Did you mean that post to as rude as it appears?

    See original post

     Classic first post of someone who has no intention of becoming a regular forum member. Just showing linguistic superiority over the rest of us. 

    I do know how to pronounce Kniphof (and Kniphofia) but I don't find it necessary to belittle those who don't.

    So I'll post this then ignore.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 54,607
    nutcutlet says:
     

    Just showing linguistic superiority over the rest of us. 

     Attempting to Nut, but not succeeding ... not on this forum image

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  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 2,716

    nee-fof-ee-a  !!!!

    from The Collingridge Dictionary of Plant Names (Allen J.Coombes) 1985 .

    Gridling , this IS the correct pronunciation image .

    Your self-assumed 'superiority' is even more annoying than mispronunciations .

  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 2,716

    Hostafan1

     Stayed at Woolfardisworthy many many years ago whilst still at primary school . Seemed a world apart then (1970's) from my home in Nottingham . Woke up to the sound of sheep instead of traffic!image

  • FairygirlFairygirl west central ScotlandPosts: 24,622

    Perhaps we should all 'knip hoff' and do something else rather then entertain people with nowt else to worry about.....I'm having a cuppa instead  image

    # You say TomAto, and I say tomaato....and all that jazz  image

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....


  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 13,490

    Paul B3, you will know all about Rainworth, Blidworth, and Southwell.

    ( Renn erth,  Blid erth, and Suthell)

    You don't stop doing new things because you get old, you get old because you stop doing new things. <3
  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 2,716

    fidgetbones

    Used to live at Ravenshead near Blid-erth ! Frequented Suthell market and GC regularly ; there a couple of weeks ago !

    Friend of mine used to work at Hucknall (Uckna) colliery years ago image !

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