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NO LAWN after using Evergreen 4 in 1 lawn feed

Hi, 3 weeks my gardener put down Evergreen  4 in 1 lawn feed. I trusted him. I had mostly had weed not much grass but at least I had someone green to look at! Now I have a big patch of soil. I trusted my gardener when he said the treatment would kill weed and make new grass. 

My guestion is can I NOW put down some new grass seed? Because I can see no sign of grass and it's 3 weeks ago that I used the horrible stuff that never produced any grass. :-( 

I would really like expert advice and hear if anyone has had similar experiences. I know there has been other 4 in 1 threads but I don't think it was used everywhere on their lawn.

Thank you in advance


Last edited: 14 August 2017 17:52:18


  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 86,957

    I'd leave it a little while longer before re-seeding ... this is because the 4 in 1 type applications often contain a pre-emergent treatment which prevents any seed from germinating - you'll see here that Rolawn recommend a gap of at least four weeks. 

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    Last edited: 14 August 2017 18:07:37

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.

  • BorderlineBorderline Posts: 4,700

    You said you had mostly weed and not much grass. These 4 in 1 feeds will have killed the weeds, which will normally mean you have patches and space between grass. But, you can rake over the areas to lift the thatch. This usually stimulates growth of grass. But because I can't see what the patch looks like now, it's hard to say if it's worth putting new seed down or wait after raking over. It sounds like you only need to do patches here and there. Feeding a lawn is just one part of the job. Having grass can take up 70% of your time. It's on-going and never ending. And that's just cutting it.

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,843

    If you had more weed than grass it's normal that you have big bare patches.  Rake it all clear of thatch and dead weeds and moss then leave it to be rained on for a couple of weeks.   Rake again to loosen the soil surface then sow suitable grass seed in September when temperatures and moisture levels are conducive to good germination and the residue of the product should have been washed away.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Thankyou so much for all your replies. And yes I will look for another gardener :-) 

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 23,135

    But your gardener was right in the long run. If you want a grass lawn you had to kill the weeds first. If there were lots of weeds and hardly any grass then it is normal that it will look like a patch of soil. It needs to be seeded. So far only part of the treatment has been done. Do what Obelixx says and sow grass in September after loosening the surface with a rake. If your garden is small and your budget OK you could use turf, then you will have a green lawn straight away. It will have to be watered until it take root.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,843

    Agree.  Keep the gardener and maybe do some research on lawn care so you know what he or she is talking about.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,739

    I agree, as ever, with Obs. September is perfect for gras sowing.

    The soil is a good temperature, and it's rarely too hot, too dry ( you can water if it is), or too cold for seed to germinate.

  • Allotment BoyAllotment Boy Posts: 6,551

    This is why the real experts recommend weeding & feeding as two separate operations, as the combined product though convenient inevitably does not have the right balance of Weedkiller & feed to suit all situations. If there are only a few weeds better to feed & then spot weed as needed.  It sounds as though your lawn had a lot of weed though so the advice you have been given above is sound.

    AB Still learning

  • The best lawn weedkiller, once you have a lawn again, is the lawnmower!

  • unfortunately gardeners do not come with magic wands a lawn is not instant it takes a lot of work
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